{"id":4422,"date":"2022-01-10T22:17:48","date_gmt":"2022-01-10T22:17:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8000\/?page_id=4063"},"modified":"2023-04-06T07:26:44","modified_gmt":"2023-04-06T14:26:44","slug":"j-obarrs-the-crow","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/works\/adaptations-covers\/j-obarrs-the-crow\/","title":{"rendered":"J. O&#8217;Barr&#8217;s The Crow"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"ext-byline\">&#8220;Borrowings&#8221; from Catholic Boy<br>By Cassie Carter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J. O&#8217;Barr&#8217;s 1981 graphic novel,\u00a0<em>The Crow<\/em>, which was made into a film starring Brandon Lee, alludes to several lines from songs on The Jim Carroll Band&#8217;s 1980 album <em>Catholic Boy <\/em>and visually references <em>The Basketball Diaries.<\/em> The Carroll details are unique in <em>The Crow <\/em>in that other &#8220;borrowed&#8221; materials are credited. For example, O&#8217;Barr credits poems by Arthur Rimbaud, Lois Weakley McKay, and Rose Fyleman; lyrics by Robert Smith (The Cure), Joy Division, and Robyn Hitchcock; and a few lines from Voltaire. Jim Carroll and Emily Dickinson are not credited.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Carroll says he&#8217;s a little flattered and he would appreciate a credit in the book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">For Comparison<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Cover photo of Carroll from&nbsp;X<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/bd.php\">1978 edition of The Basketball Diaries<\/a>&nbsp;(left) and J. O&#8217;Barr&#8217;s character &#8220;Fun Boy&#8221; from The Crow (right):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\"><div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bd1cov.jpg?ver\" alt=\"Jim Carroll- First Edition of The Basketball Diaries 1978\" class=\"wp-image-580\" width=\"167\" height=\"268\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bd1cov.jpg 265w, https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bd1cov-187x300.jpg 187w, https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bd1cov-120x192.jpg 120w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 167px) 100vw, 167px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jim Carroll- First Edition of The Basketball Diaries 1978<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" height=\"277\" src=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/funboy.jpg?ver\" alt=\"&quot;Funboy&quot; - J. O'Bar's The Crow\" class=\"wp-image-6200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/funboy.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/funboy-139x192.jpg 139w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&#8220;Funboy&#8221; &#8211; J. O&#8217;Bar&#8217;s The Crow<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br clear=\"all\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Carroll remarked that, even though Fun Boy is a murderer and a rapist, at least he is a fairly sympathetic character whose death is relatively nonviolent and painless . . .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><br>The &#8220;Borrowed&#8221; Lines from Catholic Boy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Keep in mind three things. First, note that O&#8217;Barr&#8217;s drawing of &#8220;Fun Boy,&#8221; above, was drawn using Carroll&#8217;s portrait as a model. I don&#8217;t think anyone can dispute this. Second, the lyrics to the songs on Carroll&#8217;s album&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/works\/jim-carroll-music-and-spoken-word\/music-jim-carroll-jim-carroll-band\/catholic-boy-jim-carroll-band\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"4275\">Catholic Boy<\/a>&nbsp;were not printed on the sleeve, and Carroll&#8217;s enunciation of the lyrics (given his unique, Inwood NYC accent) leaves some room for translation. Third, although some of the &#8220;borrowed&#8221; lines may seem to be generic, note how much stuff O&#8217;Barr gets from Carroll. Although a line by O&#8217;Barr such as, &#8220;Like Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane,&#8221; may seem commonplace, please note that O&#8217;Barr obviously was looking at Carroll&#8217;s work while writing&nbsp;<em>The Crow<\/em>. Page numbers for&nbsp;<em>The Crow<\/em>&nbsp;are &#8220;guestimated&#8221; because the book&#8217;s pages are not numbered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">From&nbsp;X<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/works\/jim-carroll-lyrics\/catholic-boy-lyrics\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"4055\">City Drops Into the Night<\/a>:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Barr writes:<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8220;when the city drops into the night, things so very wrong seem oh so right&#8221; (26).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Carroll writes:<\/strong><br>Because when the city drops into the night<br>Before the darkness there&#8217;s one moment of light<br>When everything seems clear<br>And the other side it seems so near<br>What seemed wrong . . . ?<br>I think it&#8217;s gonna be just about right<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Barr writes:<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8220;Go from this place, Sandy, before he sucks all the light from your eyes&#8221; (95).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Carroll writes:<\/strong><br>They wait in shadows and steal the light from your eyes<br>To them, vision&#8217;s just a costly infection<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">From&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/works\/jim-carroll-lyrics\/catholic-boy-lyrics\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"4055\">Catholic Boy<\/a>:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Barr writes:<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8220;I&#8217;ve allies in heaven, Jack, I&#8217;ve comrades in hell . . .&#8221; (42).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Carroll writes:<\/strong><br>I made allies in heaven<br>I made comrades in Hell<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Barr writes:<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8220;Like Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane&#8221; (49).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Carroll writes:<\/strong><br>I understand the fate of all my enemies<br>Just like Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">From&nbsp;X<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/works\/jim-carroll-lyrics\/catholic-boy-lyrics\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"4055\">I Want the Angel<\/a>:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Barr writes:<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8220;Are the bones of your sins sharp enough to cut through your own excuses?&#8221; (94).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Carroll writes:<\/strong><br>I want the angel<br>Whose bones are so sharp<br>They can break through their old excuses<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Borrowings&#8221; from Catholic BoyBy Cassie Carter J. O&#8217;Barr&#8217;s 1981 graphic novel,\u00a0The Crow, which was made into a film starring Brandon Lee, alludes to several lines from songs on The Jim Carroll Band&#8217;s 1980 album Catholic Boy and visually references The Basketball Diaries. The Carroll details are unique in The Crow in that other &#8220;borrowed&#8221; materials &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/works\/adaptations-covers\/j-obarrs-the-crow\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">J. O&#8217;Barr&#8217;s The Crow<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":27,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"folder":[],"class_list":["post-4422","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/P9VlUH-19k","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4365,"url":"https:\/\/www.catholicboy.com\/WP\/books-influenced-by-jim-carroll\/","url_meta":{"origin":4422,"position":0},"title":"Books Influenced by Jim Carroll","author":"catholicboy.com","date":"January 10, 2022","format":false,"excerpt":"The authors of these books have acknowledged Jim Carroll's influence. (Needs updating!) 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