Fast Stories From Jim Carroll
Jim Carroll talks with Truly’s Robert Roth about train surfing, his Basketball Diaries and people who died 1n 1963, Jack Kerouac read excerpts of Jim Carroll’s diaries in the Paris Review, In the early ’70s, Carroll was immersed in the New York art/literary/ rock scene, working I first met Jim Carroll about four years ago when my band Truly was in the final stretch
Robert Roth: I’ve been listening to the new album over and over. I think the whole Jim Carroll: I did an interview with some guy in Atlanta yesterday and he thought Roth: Yeah, I really like it. I like “Desert Town” a lot, too. Carroll: You like that?
Roth: Yeah, it’s a cool song. It’s interesting because for a purebred New Yorker Carroll: I know, I had that line in my head for a while, you know? I changed all
Roth: I really enjoy the music accompanying the spoken word pieces, especially Carroll: I like that one, too. It’s almost like a song, the way (producer Anton
Roth: It’s interesting the way the whole album is produced. The sequencing flows Carroll: That’s funny you said that, because I remember that A&R guy up here,
Roth: Yeah, and I remember you were telling me a while back about a screenplay that Carroll: Right, exactly. That’s what it’s from. See, the guy that asked me to write Roth: So what do these kids do? Do they climb on top of trains and ride them? Carroll: It’s just the velocity is like–I mean, these things go like at about 90 Roth: What are the odds that they get blown off the train? Carroll: Sometimes it’s like 20 kids on one car, you know? Oh, there’s plenty of
Roth: I want to ask you about the piece “I Am Not Kurt Schwitters”; who Carroll: He’s a painter from the turn of the century; he was part of the Blaue But, the Fauves and the Blaue Reiters were this kind of alternative school of painting.
Roth: You don’t hear poetry like this on records very often. I’m just hoping that Carroll: Well, the thing is that I did; there were some poems [on this album]
that–I mean, some of them are different than my other poems; they’re more accessible in a
Roth: How did Pools of Mercury go from being a spoken word album to having a bunch Carroll: I mean, obviously, as you know, I had those two songs from you and Truly
Roth: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. I don’t think that the song lost Carroll: Yeah, I mean I wrote it for The Basketball Diaries, and it was for the kid Roth: What’s “Pools of Mercury” about? Carroll: Well, it’s basically like one of those “People Who Died” songs
Roth: Yeah, I can feel it just listening to this thing. The new book, Void of Carroll: Well, the new book is poems, you know? But I have two novels that I’ve
Roth: How have you been affected by the deaths of Allen Ginsberg and William Carroll: Allen, especially, was a poet who reinvented poetry readings as like an
Roth: I remember in 1996 there was a Newsweek cover story about heroin chic where Carroll: And then it had some Seattle rocker from some big band who wouldn’t name Roth: For me, that book made me want to write, it didn’t make me want to shoot up. Carroll: I get more [letters from people], since The Basketball Diaries
Roth: Which takes me to my last question, which is about the piece that ends Pools Carroll: Well, I mean the gun thing, it’s obvious. Roth: I’m talking about the Cheez Whiz. Carroll: Yeah, well I just think of Cheez Whiz as a junkie food, you know?
Roth: Yeah. I mean that poem is amazing, and when you got to the part: “But Carroll: They did that spoken word unplugged thing, I was scheduled to do it. I
Roth: So you’re coming out here to do something in November at the Crocodile Cafe? Carroll: Yeah, yeah. No, I’m not coming out with [a band], I might do a couple
Roth: Absolutely, we could learn “Wicked Gravity,” “People Who Carroll: Yeah? All right, well, we could do “Falling Down Laughing.” Roth: Yeah, exactly. Whatever you want. Jim Carroll will perform an evening of spoken word and music at the Crocodile Cafe in © 1998 BAM Media The original interview was found here.
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